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brokesailor


 - posted February 02, 2014 04:16 AM      Profile for brokesailor           Edit/Delete Post 
From the 2/2/14 0600 discussion:
COLD FRONT SHUD STALL OVER S OF CAPE FEAR EARLY TUE AS HIGH PRES
BUILDS OFFSHR NEW ENGL. THEN WITH MIDWEEK MILLER TYPE B CYCLONE
ALNG MID ATLC COAST...00Z GFS WAS CONSISTENT AND IS SLIGHTLY N
OF OTHER GUIDANCE WITH TRACK OF THE DVLPG COASTAL LOW THRU NRN
MID ATLC/SRN NEW ENGL WATERS WED. ALSO 00Z GFS IS A SLIGHTLY
STRONGER THAN ITS PREVIOUS RUN. AS A RESULT 00Z GFS CONTINUED TO
BE ONLY DETERMINISTIC GLOBAL MDL WHICH EXTENDS THE S TO SW GALES
INTO SRN NEW ENGL WATERS. ALTHO WILL AWAIT 00Z HI RES ECMWF
BEFORE MAKING FINAL DECISION...GIVEN 00Z UKMET AND 00Z GLOBAL
GEM AM LEANING TOWARD KEEPING OPC CONTINUITY WITH WED
GALES...AND PREFERENCE FOR 00Z NON GFS CONSENSUS. AND LIMITING
GALES TO BALT CNYN TO HAGUE LINE WATERS AND BALT TO HATTERAS
CNYNS AGAIN WITH MDT FORECAST CONFIDENCE. 00Z MDLS IN GOOD
AGREEMENT THU THAT STRONG HIGH PRES SHUD REACH MID MS VALLEY
WITH RIDGE BUILDING OFFSHR AND DIMINISHING WINDS/SEAS.

WHAT IS A MILLER TYPE B CYCLONE?

From: Chesapeake Bay
David Burch


 - posted February 08, 2014 02:35 PM      Profile for David Burch           Edit/Delete Post 
This question was in our student discussion forum and answered there.
From: Starpath, Seattle, WA
brokesailor


 - posted February 09, 2014 02:56 AM      Profile for brokesailor           Edit/Delete Post 
I don't have acess to the Student Forum. I took the course several years ago.
From: Chesapeake Bay
David Burch


 - posted February 09, 2014 12:50 PM      Profile for David Burch           Edit/Delete Post 
Although this was answered once in some depth, i must say when i go to find it now it is not there, and i then searched all of our forums. So maybe i did not push the right button when i thought i did. But i have now lost all the links.

Miller storms A and B is a description of how particular storms move up the east coast. You can find much about this with a google search on "miller storm types." the term originates from a joint paper by miller and someone else in the mid 50s.

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here is one sample:

"These are 2 of the classic winter storm tracks that are discussed on the board. A Miller A storm has a primary storm, with no secondary development, that rides up along the coast or spine of the Appalachians typically. The March 1993 Super Bomb was just one of these.

http://www.meteo.psu.edu/~fxg1/NARR/1993/us0313.php

A Miller B has a primary storm track that comes out or Alberta, Canada that spawns a secondary storm along the east coast from the Carolina's all the way up the coast. The January 2005 Blizzard in New England was a classic Miller B.

http://www.meteo.psu.edu/~fxg1/NARR/2005/us0122.php

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As you have discovered, we learn a lot from these weather discussions, but they include many (sometimes obscure) abbreviations and much shop talk and jargon.

A note in passing. Your registration in the course and ability to take part in discussion and resources does not expire. But you need an active web card to get back into the course. there are several options for extending your card from as low as $17.... or many of our products also include a web card with the purchase. (and this unadvertised note.

http://www.starpath.com/webcards

From: Starpath, Seattle, WA
brokesailor


 - posted February 17, 2014 04:04 AM      Profile for brokesailor           Edit/Delete Post 
Dave: Thank you. I do have the webcard and the only forum I have access to is the Public Forum.
From: Chesapeake Bay
David Burch


 - posted February 17, 2014 10:28 AM      Profile for David Burch           Edit/Delete Post 
If you ever signed up for any starpath online course, that course would be open to you so long as you have a valid web card, even after the course is completed.

Did you get enough info here to track down your Miller storm question?

The official NWS weather discussions are often very valuable, but they are filled with abbreviations, sometimes obscure, and much shop talk.

Our PC software program called Weather Trainer Live includes a glossary of the terms used.

From: Starpath, Seattle, WA
David Burch


 - posted February 17, 2014 10:40 AM      Profile for David Burch           Edit/Delete Post 
I just spotted your earlier note on taking the course and i checked and you are there in the records just fine (from 2009), and i tested this with your login info and got right into the course. If you cannot do that, give us a call and we will help you.
From: Starpath, Seattle, WA


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